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Sudev Barar writes:
> AFAIK you will have to do something like pppconfig to make a ppp
> connection for this to work.
Not pppconfig.  For a DSL modem configured as a bridge (most default to
router these days) he would need to run pppoeconf but I don't think that
any cable providers use PPPoE.
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2009/6/8 Sandip Sandip <new.debianuser@yahoo.in>:
> I have an old debian 2.4x kernel machine. I want to connect a cable modem
> through the usb port.
> CDCEther support is on. When the machine is up and running cable modem LEDs
> show PC connection.
> But I am not able to access internet. What is missing? Do I need to set-up/
> configure anythine more?

What is ppp config?

AFAIK you will have to do something like pppconfig to make a ppp
connection for this to work.
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Sudev Barar wrote:
> 2009/6/9 Sandip Sandip <new.debianuser@yahoo.in>:
>> Is it that the modem is not 'installed'?
>>
>> Also, the same modem works without any username and password on another
>> windows machine after connecting it on the LAN port.
>>
>
> While in parlance you can call it modem technically it is a modem only
> if connecting through serial port. If it is connecting through network
> cable it is a network device and your problem would be more in area of
> setting up IP and ranges.
>
> Clarify.
>

Incorrect.  Modem stands for MOdulator-DEModulator.  It converts digital
  signals to analog and vice versa.  There is no requirement for it to
be connected to a serial port.

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In <411728.34217.qm@web95107.mail.in2.yahoo.com>, Sandip Sandip wrote:
>2009/6/9 Sandip Sandip <new.debianuser@yahoo.in>:
>> Is it that the modem is not 'installed'?
>>
>> Also, the same modem works without any username and password on another
>> windows machine after connecting it on the LAN port.
>Its a cable modem. When I connect a Windows machine to it, I connect it on
> the LAN port (Network cable). Once the modem is on, I need no
> configuration, usernames, passwords, etc. I can access the net.
>
>When I connect it to my Debian box, I need to connect it to USB (as my
> Debian box does not have LAN port - Ethernet cable), I am not able to
> access the net.

Last I checked, while Linux will use the LAN side of such devices, the USB 
side varies quite a bit, does not use the USB networking standard, and (most 
likely) is not supported in Linux.

>So, do I need to 'install' the modem so Debian knows there is a networking
> device on the USB port and then use pppconfig.

Yes.  If you are attempting to use the USB side of the device, you will need 
a special driver for your OS.  This is true even if you are using the USB 
via Windows.

The bits that the device sends down the LAN port are not the same as the 
bits the device sends down the USB port.

You might be able to get USB drivers for the device from the manufacturer.  
If you are *very* specific about the device make, model, etc. you might even 
find someone that knows about a Linux driver on this list.

Failing that, the device will work fine if you plug the LAN cable into the 
Linux box.  You want to use DHCP to get an IP address.  Of course, this 
would require you to install a LAN card in your Linux system.  If all you 
are using it for is the Internet, a old 10mbit card should work fine; your 
local hardware hacker may have one of those they will give away for free.
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Sandip writes:
> So, do I need to 'install' the modem so Debian knows there is a
> networking device on the USB port and then use pppconfig.

Boyd writes:
> Yes.  If you are attempting to use the USB side of the device, you will
> need a special driver for your OS.

He will need a driver (better to just get an ethernet card).  He will not
need or want to use pppconfig.
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On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 13:37 +0530, Sandip Sandip wrote:

>
> I have an old debian 2.4x kernel machine. I want to connect a cable
> modem through the usb port.

Hi,

At the risk of telling the obvious, Debian releases with 2.4 kernel
(Sarge?) aren't supported anymore.

Connecting such machine to the internet is, well... insecure.

Debian Lenny has two 'light' desktop (XFCE and LXDE) that should be
suitable for older machine.

Regards,

Franklin

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <411728.34217.qm@web95107.mail.in2.yahoo.com>, Sandip Sandip wrote:
>> 2009/6/9 Sandip Sandip <new.debianuser@yahoo.in>:
>>> Is it that the modem is not 'installed'?
>>>
>>> Also, the same modem works without any username and password on another
>>> windows machine after connecting it on the LAN port.
>> Its a cable modem. When I connect a Windows machine to it, I connect it on
>> the LAN port (Network cable). Once the modem is on, I need no
>> configuration, usernames, passwords, etc. I can access the net.
>>
>> When I connect it to my Debian box, I need to connect it to USB (as my
>> Debian box does not have LAN port - Ethernet cable), I am not able to
>> access the net.

You may be able to use it by getting a USB LAN port, and then plugging
the cable modem into *that*.  Of course, you will want to get a USB LAN
adapter that follows standards and has Linux drivers.

Mark Allums

Sandip Sandip wrote:
> Its a cable modem. When I connect a Windows machine to it, I connect it on the LAN port (Network cable). Once the modem is on, I need no configuration, usernames, passwords, etc. I can access the net.

What you have observed above is correct. I understand this as:

1. Connect your modem to your computer (if via LAN cable, no drivers
necessary, but drivers are necessary if you are doing via USB).

2. If your computer is configured to be a dhcp client, it automatically
gets an IP address from the modem. I think if the modem sees a dhcp
request, it automatically works in bridge mode. However, if your
computer sends out pppoe connection establishing stuff, the modem will
start to work in pppoe mode. But this based on the few modems I have
experimented with; readers: please correct me if I am wrong. Also, some
cable modems also get their connection via dhcp (their mac address is
known to the ISP and allowed to get an IP address, but I don't have
experience with cable modems).

3. USB drivers for Linux are very problematic. LAN connection is the
best choice in all operating systems. I would recommend using the LAN
connection. If your computer does not have a LAN port, it would be a
good idea to buy a cheap LAN card (most of them work out of the box with
Linux, but beware that some are notorious for not working at all).


>
> When I connect it to my Debian box, I need to connect it to USB (as my Debian box does not have LAN port - Ethernet cable), I am not able to access the net.
>
> So, do I need to 'install' the modem so Debian knows there is a networking device on the USB port and then use pppconfig.

Yes, Debian needs USB drivers. You need to search the web for
information on whether your particular modem is supported in Linux.


Regards.


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Sudev Barar writes:
> AFAIK you will have to do something like pppconfig to make a ppp
> connection for this to work.
Not pppconfig.  For a DSL modem configured as a bridge (most default to
router these days) he would need to run pppoeconf but I don't think that
any cable providers use PPPoE.

No luck for me! Tried pppconfig but it could not recognize the modem.

Is it that the modem is not 'installed'?

Also, the same modem works without any username and password on another windows machine after connecting it on the LAN port.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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2009/6/9 Sandip Sandip <new.debianuser@yahoo.in>:
>
> Is it that the modem is not 'installed'?
>
> Also, the same modem works without any username and password on another
> windows machine after connecting it on the LAN port.
>

While in parlance you can call it modem technically it is a modem only
if connecting through serial port. If it is connecting through network
cable it is a network device and your problem would be more in area of
setting up IP and ranges.

Clarify.

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2009/6/9 Sandip Sandip <new.debianuser@yahoo.in>:
>
> Is it that the modem is not 'installed'?
>
> Also, the same modem works without any username and password on another
> windows machine after connecting it on the LAN port.
>

While in parlance you can call it modem technically it is a modem only
if connecting through serial port. If it is connecting through network
cable it is a network device and your problem would be more in area of
setting up IP and ranges.

Its a cable modem. When I connect a Windows machine to it, I connect it on the LAN port (Network cable). Once the modem is on, I need no configuration, usernames, passwords, etc. I can access the net.

When I connect it to my Debian box, I need to connect it to USB (as my Debian box does not have LAN port - Ethernet cable), I am not able to access the net.

So, do I need to 'install' the modem so Debian knows there is a networking device on the USB port and then use pppconfig.

Apologies if I am not able to use appropriate technical terms.

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 Windows machine to it, I connect it on the LAN port (Network cable). Once the modem is on, I need no configuration, usernames, passwords, etc. I can access the net.<br><br>When I connect it to my Debian box, I need to connect it to USB (as my Debian box does not have LAN port - Ethernet cable), I am not able to access the net.<br><br>So, do I need to 'install' the modem so Debian knows there is a networking device on the USB port and then use pppconfig.<br><br>Apologies if I am not able to use appropriate technical terms.<br><br>-- <br><br>Sandip<br></div></div></div><br>


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2009/6/9 Jerry Stuckle <jstuckle@attglobal.net>:
> Sudev Barar wrote:
>> While in parlance you can call it modem technically it is a modem only
>> if connecting through serial port. If it is connecting through network
>> cable it is a network device and your problem would be more in area of
>> setting up IP and ranges.
>
> Incorrect.  Modem stands for MOdulator-DEModulator.  It converts digital
>  signals to analog and vice versa.  There is no requirement for it to be
> connected to a serial port.
>

Yes. My bad.

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Sandip Sandip wrote at 2009-06-08 02:07 -0600:
>    I have an old debian 2.4x kernel machine. I want to connect a cable modem
>    through the usb port.
> 
>    CDCEther support is on. When the machine is up and running cable modem
>    LEDs show PC connection.

I have done this successfully in the past with Debian Sarge (kernel 2.6).  Just
# ifconfig eth0 up	# or maybe eth1 instead
# dhclient eth0

Perhaps you should upgrade to 2.6?

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