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On 06/08/2009 03:29:06 PM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Last-point first, you can instruct Debian-Installer to prompt for
> fixed
> IP (rather than using DHCP).

Isn't there a choice when in expert mode as well?


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Hello,

Last-point first, you can instruct Debian-Installer to prompt for fixed
IP (rather than using DHCP).

You need to pass this argument at boot prompt:
  netcfg/disable_dhcp=true

(read http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch05s03 )

On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 13:51 -0500, JW wrote:
> There's a new "feature" of Lenny that keeps catching me off guard. I might be
> wrong but I don't remember Etch ever doing this to me.
>
> It goes like this:
>
> 1. Perform a new Lenny install of the "standard package set" (no Xorg) (I
> always use net installs but I assume it's the same no matter what)
>
> 2. Immediately install ssh and configure a static IP address
>
> 3. Restart networking: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[..]
> Work around: Either kill dhcpclient or restart the server to get rid of it.
> Problem is I keep forgetting this aspect :-)

I haven't tested it, but running "ifdown eth0"  may help.

Franklin

On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 15:33 -0500, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> On 06/08/2009 03:29:06 PM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Last-point first, you can instruct Debian-Installer to prompt for
> > fixed
> > IP (rather than using DHCP).
>
> Isn't there a choice when in expert mode as well?

Sure, you are probably right. (It's just that I don't use Expert mode).

Franklin

Regardless of mode it should always ask for dhcp/static. Didn't it do
this before?

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On Mon,08.Jun.09, 13:51:15, JW wrote:
 
> 1. Perform a new Lenny install of the "standard package set" (no Xorg) (I 
> always use net installs but I assume it's the same no matter what)
> 
> 2. Immediately install ssh and configure a static IP address
> 
> 3. Restart networking: /etc/init.d/networking restart
 
[snip server goes back to DHCP]

> Work around: Either kill dhcpclient or restart the server to get rid of it. 
> Problem is I keep forgetting this aspect :-)

So the problem is '/etc/init.d/networking restart' does not kill 
dhclient? Does a simple 'ifdown eth0' do it? What about
'ifdown --force eth0'

Regards,
Andrei
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Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Regardless of mode it should always ask for dhcp/static. Didn't it do
> this before?

IIRC, since sarge or etch it tried to automatically detect a dhcp server
and on success would configure the network for dhcp. On failing to
configure the network automatically, it would ask.

(I guess this is a sane default behaviour that is fine for most people.)

Johannes


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Hi,

On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 23:52 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Regardless of mode it should always ask for dhcp/static.

Static IP are only useful in managed environment (especially for
servers). In managed environnement, one is supposed to have RTFM.

On the other hand, computers used by regular users are configured using
DHCP. Regular users would only be confused if they were given the option
to configure IP address manually.

> Didn't it do this before?

I can't remember.

Regards,



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On Tuesday 09 June 2009 22:28:52 Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
> On the other hand, computers used by regular users are configured using
> DHCP. Regular users would only be confused if they were given the option
> to configure IP address manually.

Surely one could expect Debian users, or rather, users installing Debian for
themselves, to know whether they want DHCP or static IP?  Every other distro
that I have installed asks, including ones that are avowedly aimed
at "regular users".

Lisi

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:00:21PM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> > Regardless of mode it should always ask for dhcp/static. Didn't it do
> > this before?
> 
> IIRC, since sarge or etch it tried to automatically detect a dhcp server
> and on success would configure the network for dhcp. On failing to
> configure the network automatically, it would ask.
> 
> (I guess this is a sane default behaviour that is fine for most people.)

IMHO it seems weird to not offer to configure network manually
especially if you know it is going to fail if it tries without asking.

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