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[Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question
Author: "Ben Sturgis ben
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 00:03
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Hello guys,
I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures genetic diversity and
variation in plants, and if cuttings produce an exact clone of the parent
plant, then why do variegated and striated Sansevierias reproduce
non-variegated and non-striated plants when propagated by a leaf cutting?
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<div dir="ltr">Hello guys,<div><br></div><div>I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures genetic diversity and variation in plants, and if cuttings produce an exact clone of the parent plant, then why do variegated and  striated Sansevierias reproduce non-variegated and non-striated plants when propagated by a leaf cutting?</div>
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Re: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question
Author: "Ben Sturgis ben
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:20
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:20
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Very happy to get the feedback and clarifications, had been wondering about
that one for a while. Much appreciated!
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:42 AM, mlaforest05@comcast.net [Sansevierias] <
Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>
> ......Because a leaf cutting in sansevierias does not transfer the
> genetic "codes" necessary for a variegated plant to copy itself. These
> codes are reserved for the *rhizome*. If a variegated sansevieria leaf is
> severed to make leaf cuttings for propagation purposes, it can only produce
> two types of plants: either all green or all albino depending on WHERE the
> new plantlet originates on the leaf-cut surface. The young albino plant
> cannot survive if it is detached from the cutting, while the green plantlet
> will be fine. Nature considers variegation an abomination, a weakness, and
> it tries to weed out weakness.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ben Sturgis bennsturgis@gmail.com [Sansevierias] <
> Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:03:30 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question
> Hello guys,
> I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures genetic diversity
> and variation in plants, and if cuttings produce an exact clone of the
> parent plant, then why do variegated and striated Sansevierias reproduce
> non-variegated and non-striated plants when propagated by a leaf cutting?
>
>
>
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<div dir="ltr">Very happy to get the feedback and clarifications, had been wondering about that one for a while. Much appreciated!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:42 AM, <a href="mailto:mlaforest05@comcast.net">mlaforest05@comcast.net</a> [Sansevierias] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p></p><div>Â ......Because a leaf cutting in sansevierias does not transfer the genetic "codes" necessary for a variegated plant to copy itself. These codes are reserved for the <em>rhizome</em>. If a variegated sansevieria leaf is severed to make leaf cuttings for propagation purposes, it can only produce two types of plants: either all green or all albino depending on WHERE the new plantlet originates on the leaf-cut surface. The young albino plant cannot survive if it is detached from the cutting, while the green plantlet will be fine. Nature considers variegation an abomination, a weakness, and it tries to weed out weakness.</div>
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<div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Ben Sturgis <a href="mailto:bennsturgis@gmail.com" target="_blank">bennsturgis@gmail.com</a> [Sansevierias] <<a href="mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com</a><br>Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:03:30 -0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question</div>
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<div>I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures genetic diversity and variation in plants, and if cuttings produce an exact clone of the parent plant, then why do variegated and  striated Sansevierias reproduce non-variegated and non-striated plants when propagated by a leaf cutting?</div>
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Re: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question
Author: "Alan Myklebust
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:04
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Very nice explanation, Michael!
Alan
On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Ben Sturgis bennsturgis@gmail.com [Sansevierias] <Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Very happy to get the feedback and clarifications, had been wondering about that one for a while. Much appreciated!
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:42 AM, mlaforest05@comcast.net [Sansevierias] <Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> ......Because a leaf cutting in sansevierias does not transfer the genetic "codes" necessary for a variegated plant to copy itself. These codes are reserved for the rhizome. If a variegated sansevieria leaf is severed to make leaf cuttings for propagation purposes, it can only produce two types of plants: either all green or all albino depending on WHERE the new plantlet originates on the leaf-cut surface. The young albino plant cannot survive if it is detached from the cutting, while the green plantlet will be fine. Nature considers variegation an abomination, a weakness, and it tries to weed out weakness.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ben Sturgis bennsturgis@gmail.com [Sansevierias] <Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:03:30 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question
> Hello guys,
> I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures genetic diversity and variation in plants, and if cuttings produce an exact clone of the parent plant, then why do variegated and striated Sansevierias reproduce non-variegated and non-striated plants when propagated by a leaf cutting?
>
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Very nice explanation, Michael!<div><br></div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Ben Sturgis <a href="mailto:bennsturgis@gmail.com">bennsturgis@gmail.com</a> [Sansevierias] <<a href="mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com">Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; position: relative;"><div id="ygrp-msg" style="line-height: 1.22em; z-index: 1;"><div id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Georgia;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.22em;">Very happy to get the feedback and clarifications, had been wondering about that one for a while. Much appreciated!</div><div class="gmail_extra" style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div class="gmail_quote" style="line-height: 1.22em;">On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 8:42 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mlaforest05@comcast.net" style="line-height: 1.22em;">mlaforest05@comcast.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Sansevierias]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.22em;"><<a href="mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" style="line-height: 1.22em;">Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height: 1.22em; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid;"><u style="line-height: 1.22em;"></u><div style="line-height: 1.22em; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="line-height: 1.22em;"> </span><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"> ......Because a leaf cutting in sansevierias does not transfer the genetic "codes" necessary for a variegated plant to copy itself. These codes are reserved for the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><em style="line-height: 1.22em;">rhizome</em>. If a variegated sansevieria leaf is severed to make leaf cuttings for propagation purposes, it can only produce two types of plants: either all green or all albino depending on WHERE the new plantlet originates on the leaf-cut surface. The young albino plant cannot survive if it is detached from the cutting, while the green plantlet will be fine. Nature considers variegation an abomination, a weakness, and it tries to weed out weakness.</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div class="h5" style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;">----- Original Message -----<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">From: Ben Sturgis<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bennsturgis@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="line-height: 1.22em;">bennsturgis@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Sansevierias] <<a href="mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" style="line-height: 1.22em;">Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com</a>><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" style="line-height: 1.22em;">Sansevierias@yahoogroups.com</a><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 07:03:30 -0000 (UTC)<br style="line-height: 1.22em;">Subject: [Sansevierias] Sansevieria propagation Question</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.22em;">Hello guys,<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;">I was just thinking if reproduction by seed ensures genetic diversity and variation in plants, and if cuttings produce an exact clone of the parent plant, then why do variegated and  striated Sansevierias reproduce non-variegated and non-striated plants when propagated by a leaf cutting?</div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: white;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); min-height: 0px;"></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="line-height: 1.22em; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); height: 0px;"></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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